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		<description><![CDATA[I often get into conversation with people about Health care in Panama. Most people are very fearful of living and sometimes even travelling out of their home country for fear of &#8220;3rd World Health Care&#8221;. What many don&#8217;t realize is that everyone needs health care and in many parts of the world it is not [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often get into conversation with people about <a title="Boquete Good Health" href="http://discoverboquetepanama.com/life-in-boquete-good-for-health" target="_self">Health care in Panama</a>. Most people are very fearful of living and sometimes even travelling out of their home country for fear of &#8220;3rd World Health Care&#8221;. What many don&#8217;t realize is that everyone needs health care and in many parts of the world it is not only much cheaper but often easier to gain access to.</p>
<p>I was going to do a complete review of what happens when you get sick in Panama &#8211; hospitals, emergency care, health insurance, etc. but then I was reading Richard Detriches Blog, a fellow ex-pay who lives on and off in Panama, and I discovered Richard had done a great story on all of those things. What is cool is that he focused on health care services in Chiriqui, Panama so you can get a good idea of what it is like to get care when you live in Boquete or somewhere between Boquete and David, the Panamanian provincial capital.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s  Richard&#8217;s explanation of health care in and around Boquete Panama -</p>
<h2>Hospitals: David, Panama</h2>
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<p>In David, the third largest city in Panama, 45 minute drive from Boquete, there are four large hospitals. The Maternal &amp; Child Hospital is a National Hospital focusing primarily on material and pediatric care. It is only two years old and was a gift from the people of Taiwan, with whom Panama has diplomatic relations. Almost next door is the Social Security Hospital which serves people who are working in Panama and paying into the Social Security system. Just down the Pan American Highway is Hospital Mae Lewis, a private hospital that is used by locals and gringos. And a few blocks off the Pan American Highway is Hospital Chiriqui, a private hospital that is generally preferred by expats because of their “insurance” program (more on that later). Hospital Chiriqui. Additionally, scattered around David, there are almost a half dozen tiny private hospitals owned and run by a consortium of doctors. In some ways it isn’t very efficient, yet the hospital costs are low. A private room runs about $60 a day! Of the private hospitals, Hospital Chiriqui has the most “bells and whistles” including a state-of-the-art MRI machine, one of two in Panama.</p>
<p>Unlike in the US, in Chiriqui any doctor can practice in any hospital and you are not limited to only certain hospitals where your doctor happens to be on staff.</p>
<h2><strong>Emergency Care in Panama </strong></h2>
<p>Here is where things can get a little dicey.</p>
<p>If you happen to be one of the very few people to get bitten by one of our famously poison snakes, like the fer de lance which is fairly common in Chiriqui . . . and let me quickly add that your chances of getting bitten by a poisonous snake are about the same as your chances of getting struck by lightening or winning the lottery! . . . if you are bitten by a snake anywhere in Panama you are generally about 45 minutes from a Social Security hospital which is where the anti-venom is kept. So you have plenty of time to get to the hospital where you will find that rather than immediately giving you anti-venom there is a long waiting/observation period while they test your blood and wait to figure out what kind of snake bit you and what type of anti-venom you need. Almost everyone, except for Indians living in very remote areas, recovers. So although the fer de lance and bushmaster can be “deadly”, your chances of dying if you get assistance are very slim.</p>
<p>OK, we got that out of the way!</p>
<p>When we first came to Panama my wife asked our Boquete doctor, “So if I’m having a heart attack, what do I do?”</p>
<p>His response: “First you call me. I’ll come to your house and call an ambulance. We’ll stabilize you in David, and if necessary, once you are stabilized, we will fly you to the Panama City where the hospitals and doctors who specialize in invasive procedures are located.”</p>
<p>Good enough . . . but when we say “ambulance” do NOT think of ambulance service in the US! There have been times in Boquete when we had four different ambulances . . . and none were working! And an ambulance here is primarily a means of transportation. Don’t think a team of trained “EMTs” on call . . . or an ambulance with any sort of equipment on board. Over the years we’ve been in Boquete the expat community has worked hard and raised money to improve ambulance service, but it still is nothing like what we were used to in the States.</p>
<h2><strong>One Couples Panama Health Care Experiences<br />
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<p>One afternoon my wife started having some kind of episode. She was dizzy, had no feeling in her arms, was weak, and couldn’t stand up. It looked like some kind of allergic reaction and I feared she was going into anaphylactic shock. (We have experience with this: I am highly allergic to shellfish of any kind in any amount, and my daughter is highly allergic to chocolate.) Without 911 or any similar kind of emergency help, I called our friend Brad, and together we carried Nikki to my car, and I went to the doctor’s office (the same guy who treated her when she was thrown off the horse . . . the story I told yesterday). It turned out the good doctor was on vacation and the gal who was filling in not only didn’t speak any English, but wasn’t that familiar with his office. Eventually she found the oxygen mask, started an intravenous drip, got Nikki stabilized and agreed we needed to get to the hospital in David. She called the ambulance . . . and the “fun” began.</p>
<p>The doctor called the ambulance, then said to me, “They don’t have any gas. They want to know if you can pay for the gas?” Yes!!!</p>
<p>So the ambulance and attendants arrived . . .</p>
<p>First problem: the doctor’s makeshift treatment room and the gurney that wouldn’t fit in.</p>
<p>Second problem: the ambulance crew hadn’t the slightest idea how to move a patient from a bed onto a gurney. Somehow we managed.</p>
<p>Third problem: Nikki was too big for the ambulance. Panamanians are shorter. So they couldn’t close the back doors of the ambulance all the way. She wouldn’t fit! So the creative solution was for the ambulance attendant riding in the back to wedge himself between the side of the ambulance and press his feet against the gurney to keep Nikki from sliding out the back doors, which were flapping in the wind.</p>
<p>Fourth problem: Nikki had an IV drip going and there was no place to hang the drip in the ambulance. The attendant in back was busy trying to keep the gurney from flying out the back, so Nikki had to hold her own IV bag.</p>
<p>OK, we stopped and got $20 worth of gas.  Then we began racing down the mountain to David with lights and sirens going.,</p>
<p>Fifth problem: Nobody in Panama is going to move for an ambulance! Only the expats will pull over out of force of habit. So I’m in front, the driver is laying on the horn so people eventually will move out of the way.</p>
<p>Sixth problem: We start to get one of our famous, afternoon “rainy season” cloudbursts when the water is coming down in torrents. In front the windshield wipers are barely working and in back the doors are flapping in the wind and the water is coming in soaking Nikki and the attendant who is bravely still holding the gurney in place with his feet.</p>
<p>The reality: Supposedly “laughter is the best medicine” and Nikki, although the center of the drama, couldn’t help but find the humor in the situation.</p>
<p>Fortunately we arrived at Chiriqui Hospital and into the tiny emergency ward. It took a while, but Nikki was stabilized and a team of internists eventually discovered that she had developed an allergy to aspirin. She spent two nights in the hospital, before coming home. The ambulance ride:(for those of you who remember the original Disneyland . . . definitely an “E-ticket” ride!) $20 for gas, and another $5 (in gratitude) for beer for the guys. Hospital: emergency room, two nights, and physicians $225.</p>
<p>Yet another story . . . my wife keeps things interesting!</p>
<p>Nikki was experiencing tingling in her arms, chest pain, yada yada . . . with her history . . . “Come on, Nikki, don’t be a hero! Let’s get it checked now. If it’s nothing, fine . . . if it’s not, “golden hour” and all that stuff.” So we go to Boquete to the new clinic for such emergencies that Hospital Mae Lewis has opened. The only problem is there’s only a receptionist staffing the clinic. No doctor . . . not even a nurse . . . receptionist and janitor. The receptionist informed us that the doctor was going to be coming in an hour and that we could sit and wait. OK, so this is to be an “Emergency Clinic” . . . right. And if it is a heart attack, we’re going to sit here and twiddle our thumbs for an hour and hope that the doctor actually does show up as scheduled . . . which, in itself, would be somewhat of a miracle anywhere, let alone in Panama. And I’m about to have a “Richard-goes-ballistic” attack . . .</p>
<p>I remembered that a friend I had met because he had read this blog, lived in an apartment upstairs. He is a retired neurosurgeon who still consults via video cam in complicated surgeries around the world. Although he wasn’t a cardiologist, I knew he had his own personal encounter with a massive heart attack and open heart surgery, so I went upstairs and asked him if he could just come down and take a look at Nikki. Gracious friend that he was he put on his slippers, found his stethoscope and came down and took a look. His verdict, “I can’t say what is going on, but I can say with 99.9% certainty that she is not having a heart attack.”</p>
<p>So . . . forget paramedics and 911.</p>
<p>As “oldsalt1942? commented about yesterday’s post, <em>“You get better or you die, and that’s the reality of health care in the vast majority of the world. You get better or you die. Period. And let’s face it, you can’t take life too seriously because none of us are getting out of here alive.”</em></p>
<h2><strong>Health Insurance in Panama<br />
</strong></h2>
<p>Folks handle insurance in different ways. People who worked for the Canal or the US military in Panama have their own insurance. Some people worked for companies who still provide their retirees with the insurance they were promised when they retired. Some have their own policies from the States or some international insurance policy. Like most insurance when you are trying to get insurance after retirement you find that the insurance companies don’t cover preexisting conditions, which is exactly what you are worried about. And by the time most people reach retirement age they have preexisting conditions.</p>
<p>When you turn 65 of course and are collecting US Social Security you have Medicare. However, Medicare only covers treatment in the US. So unless you want to return to the US when you need medical care, which some folks elect to do, you are not covered. When I looked at the cost of Part B for me, and what all was not covered by Part B, I decided that for me it was cheaper to just pay the full amount for the procedure in Panama. So we, basically, self-insure . . . with a couple of exceptions.</p>
<div id="attachment_61" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><img class="size-full wp-image-61" title="Panama Travel Health Insurance" src="http://discoverboquetepanama.releasedynamics.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/insurance.jpg" alt="insurance Boquete Hospitals and Health Care" width="300" height="224" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Panama Travel Health Insurance</p></div>
<p>Since we travel a lot, we purchase annual travel policies from a company in Scandinavia that cover us when we are away from Panama for emergency medical care <em>except</em> in the US. When you include the US the cost is prohibitive, and at least when I am in the US, I could use Medicare. My wife is too young for Medicare! Since we are on ships a lot, it is important for us to have insurance that covers medical evacuation. I think anyone is crazy who takes a cruise without having travel insurance that includes coverage for evacuation. The cruise line wants you off the vessel and into a hospital as soon as possible, firstly for your own medical welfare, and secondly to avoid legal responsibility. A medical evacuation from a ship by helicopter can easily run $10-15,000! Get insurance!</p>
<p>Hospital Chiriqui does have an insurance scheme called <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.mschiriqui.com/faq_en.html" target="_blank">Medical Services Chiriqui, or MSChiriqui</a> which we use. It is not really “insurance” but more of a discount plan. A doctor visit that usually would cost $40 with a MSChiriqui coupon costs us $20. There are discounts on almost all hospital services and treatment, somewhat akin to a major medical plan in the US. In our case when my wife required an angioplasty and stents, because the procedure is not available at Hospital Chiriqui, we went to Hospital Paitilla in Panama City and the MSChiriqui plan covered half of the cost. After you have belonged to the plan for 2 years it does cover pre-existing conditions. The plan now costs us about $1200 per year for both of us.</p>
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